Azeem Azhar

You can build faster than you can spec.

That done list is real.

The question of meaning has sharpened and that meaning is going to come from us.

Authenticity being that new scarcity.

And those new foundations, energy and capital are for now holding and that boom continues.

The gap between those who have crossed over and hasn't, I think, is going to widen.

And I'm not sure what it takes for that to close.

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In early 2025, I hosted the legendary economist and Nobel laureate Paul Krugman on my show.

We never released it in the podcast feed, but it really is too relevant to leave in the archives, so we're sharing it now.

In that conversation, Paul and I covered the most critical economic questions raised by artificial intelligence.

We explored whether today's tech and AI valuations look more like a genuine productivity boom or a replay of the late 1990s.

We investigated why the US is pulling away from Europe, whether AI might substitute for globalization and what that might mean for emerging economies.

And we asked what happens to workers and communities as this technology transition unfolds.

Listening back, it's a really sharp guide to the economic backdrop for everything we now discuss on Exponential View.

Enjoy.

We need to talk about the economy in 2025 and what's going on.

I know you've got opinions, so why don't you start with your view of where we are in 2025, a sort of short-term horizon, headwinds or tailwinds, and then I'll respond to that.