Barak Swarttz

I'm the one.

So I think that's important.

I think it's important when it comes to these conflicts too that we...

we lean into a lot of the people that you might not necessarily agree with, but like they do have, they do have lived experience that I think builds authority to talk about these things.

You know, I, I came back from a speaking tour in Spain, Morocco, and South Africa.

I want to say two months ago.

I had never really talked about either of those places in my life ever.

And the reason I never really spoke about them is because I'd never been there.

And I spent the most time in South Africa.

I spent basically a month there.

I drove across the entire country by myself for three and a half weeks.

And I am not an expert on South Africa, but I've integrated myself into so many different communities there, from Johannesburg to up in Kruger to the Karoo, which is the desert region, all the way down to the Garden Route, which is the southern coast of Africa, all the way to Cape Town.

I went to an area called Soweto in Johannesburg, which is one of the coolest places in the world.

In the midst of real, real poverty for individuals, families who don't have water for two weeks or electricity, and their pavement, their roads are just dug up dirt.

And you go there and it just really changes your perspective on like, there's a lot of other people in the world that have their own stuff that you just don't even know about.

And that's why I like to go travel.

And my concept of my advocacy for Israel is quite the opposite of Israel.

And this is one of the big imperfections that I'm always happy to talk about with them.

Because, and you know this because you open your feet every single day.

The perception of Israel globally right now is very low.