Barbara Edmonds

We have to show where our priority areas are, where we've made some savings, and then put that as part of our fiscal contingency.

Again, it's over a forecast period.

We can't give an exact number because what we need to see is which claims have been paid out already.

and what new claims have started.

So last year, when the pay equity decision was made and Treasury released the budget papers, there was some really key information and assumptions that were redacted.

We have another stab this week as part of the Parliament's scrutiny week to ask more questions because it's been a year since that decision was made.

So our hope is we can get some better information around the assumptions that Treasury used.

They are a negotiation, so you have to negotiate with unions and with those representatives of working women.

But for us, the key thing is...

I am committed to finding that money and I'll make sure there's sufficient fiscal contingency for it.

Because Labour Party believes in universal health care.

It's been a commitment since 1938.

So what?

We absolutely believe there's greater access to health care because one of the key things is we do have targeting currently within our health system.

But what the health survey research shows is that even with clear targeting, we're still not being able to reach...

all the different areas that actually, all the different people that need to still access the health system.

Well, I challenge that.

New Zealand does have money.

We're still operating as a country.

The lights are still on.