Barbara Scully

He's my brother.

And anyway, they were all dispatched home.

And yeah, Carla was born then the next day.

I suppose looking back...

The baby bit, I love babies anyway.

So when she was a tiny baby, I was in that kind of cocoon place of baby and I was working with my mother.

So there wasn't too much pressure and I was living at home.

But I remember around the time she was two and developing into a child of her own and the weight of the responsibility.

I remember hitting me and worrying that I'm never going to be able to cope.

I'm never going to be able to provide her with what I need to provide her with and all the rest of it.

I found that hard.

And I also found it hard to listen to the conversations that seemed to be everywhere back then about the scourge of unmarried mothers, because the government had introduced, you know, when we joined the EU, they had to put in supports for unmarried mothers.

So there was the unmarried mothers allowance.

And you could also then apply to go on the council waiting list in the days when the council were still building council houses for people who needed them.

And I listened to so many conversations on programmes like the Late Late Show, on the radio, panel discussions, normally full of men, usually with the man of the cloth.

We had quite a few high profile priests and bishops who were very good at... Very good at spouting shite and then doing their own thing in the background.

Now you said it, yeah.

And there was two things I took away from those conversations.

And number one was...

The thing that we shouldn't have these supports in place.