Baroness Louise Casey

could no longer walk themselves to the toilet and nobody was going to provide them with occupational therapy or physiotherapy when they were discharged, and they were called bed blockers.

That isn't solved by charging reform.

The same way, I think, the dementia, we know from the Alzheimer's Research Society, from Patrick Vallance, who's a minister, was Minister for Science, Patrick and I are united on the fact that if we did more clinical trials around dementia, we might actually make some headway.

We made headway in cancer.

We've made headway in other medical areas.

If we saw dementia and Alzheimer's as a disease that we could try and do something about, wouldn't it be better that people could live fully all right, compus mentis?

If they could live at least compus mentis for as long as possible, then I think that would be a good thing.

And again, that wouldn't be solved by charging reform.

So...

The beauty of having a commission is being able to look at something at the breadth.

It doesn't mean to say that where politicians want to do things sooner, like they have done on MND and on dementia, I said to West Streeting, I think we need to do this.

I don't want to wait.

We do it now.

If anybody else comes to me and says, what do you want to do?

I will have an answer.

You mad people.

Thank you very much for having me.

And also, I rarely do this.

And when I do, I get quite nervous and I could feel warmth in the room.

So even if you disagree with me, thank you.