Barry Baines

You know, it's kind of in my head, it's just, and that gets me away from a lot of other things.

But because I see also your guitars and other musical instruments there, could you maybe talk about the role or relationship between music and these meditative,

breathing and physical practices, if that's an okay question to ask.

No pun intended, right?

Well, I'm going to...

Jim, a bunch of things.

Clarence and I would be holding on to each other for dear life at the Grand Canyon for the same thing.

Yes, this is beautiful.

And God save me.

The thing is that in meditation, just like research is coming out that even 10 minutes of walking a day has a positive impact.

10 minutes of meditation a day can also have it.

So it's not like you're getting into this where you have to meditate for three hours or two hours to have benefit, even just 10 minutes.

The Torrey story with your heart, one of my best friends was taking yoga and they had him focus on his heartbeat and he couldn't, he just couldn't find it.

And finally went into the doctor.

He had this heart rhythm problem.

That was so regular so that, you know, that was good.

And then kind of I'll wait for offline.

We have a question for you, but it's those are the things.

So it's sort of like just do it.

And it's just really it's you do the physical stuff and you do the mental stuff.