Barry Devlin

Well, there was a friend of ours, Doug Crawl,

in San Francisco who ran a record store called Rather Ripped Records that kind of cottoned on to us early on.

And we used to go down and play at their birthday parties and stuff in Berkeley.

And it was really like an oasis of...

very cool rock and roll and so we stayed friends with Doug and some years ago he found a tape on his shelf that was recorded off the radio because we used to do lots of concerts that went out live on FM stations here and there and he had recorded this concert which we didn't know about

And sent us over a tape and we thought, well, that's really interesting.

But there were a number of defects with the tape and we couldn't use it.

We thought that's great, but can't be used because a couple of the vocals were mixed.

It was a live radio recording and therefore...

The radio engineers wouldn't have known who was going to be singing the next song.

And so the vocals weren't up in the mix.

And you couldn't really hear the vocals.

No, what happened was the technology just got better and we discovered that you could actually lift the vocal up in the mix which wasn't even conceivable like 15 years ago, 10 years ago.

If you lifted one, you lifted all.

Yeah, pretty much.

And so we got a German remix engineer who's a bit of a whiz and he cleaned it up, lifted the vocals that you couldn't hear and suddenly we had a presentable...

I mean, at that stage, because we were playing so much and we had been playing so much live night after night after night, year after year, we had actually turned into a fairly tight ensemble on the road, you know.

Oh, yes.

It's an extraordinary piece of work.

And I remember the night that he did that because we were recording in Ad Vision in London and it was like four o'clock, three or four o'clock in the morning.