Barry Weiss

Maybe let's take a step back. When Sam Altman, who runs OpenAI, was recently on the show, he was making a lot of this race and we were talking a lot about it. And I said, what's at stake? What happens if China wins?

And he basically just said they can do whatever they want, which I thought was a pretty chilling answer for those of us who are worried about what the CCP wants in the world, not just for China, but beyond its borders. What's at stake, Jeff, do you think in this race that we're in?

And he basically just said they can do whatever they want, which I thought was a pretty chilling answer for those of us who are worried about what the CCP wants in the world, not just for China, but beyond its borders. What's at stake, Jeff, do you think in this race that we're in?

And he basically just said they can do whatever they want, which I thought was a pretty chilling answer for those of us who are worried about what the CCP wants in the world, not just for China, but beyond its borders. What's at stake, Jeff, do you think in this race that we're in?

It seems to me that one of the big debates is around, and I don't think there's a clear answer in MAGA world about where they fall, is about decoupling or not. Rand Paul was on this show a few months ago, and he had a pretty strong argument against decoupling based on the idea that the more we trade with China, the lower our appetite is for armed conflict.

It seems to me that one of the big debates is around, and I don't think there's a clear answer in MAGA world about where they fall, is about decoupling or not. Rand Paul was on this show a few months ago, and he had a pretty strong argument against decoupling based on the idea that the more we trade with China, the lower our appetite is for armed conflict.

It seems to me that one of the big debates is around, and I don't think there's a clear answer in MAGA world about where they fall, is about decoupling or not. Rand Paul was on this show a few months ago, and he had a pretty strong argument against decoupling based on the idea that the more we trade with China, the lower our appetite is for armed conflict.

How can you go to war with someone when you're changing so much money with them? Where do you guys fall on that argument?

How can you go to war with someone when you're changing so much money with them? Where do you guys fall on that argument?

How can you go to war with someone when you're changing so much money with them? Where do you guys fall on that argument?

But stability for them looks very different than stability for us.

But stability for them looks very different than stability for us.

But stability for them looks very different than stability for us.

But also they're more willing to clamp down on things that we regard as basic freedoms in order to attain what they perceive as stability.

But also they're more willing to clamp down on things that we regard as basic freedoms in order to attain what they perceive as stability.

But also they're more willing to clamp down on things that we regard as basic freedoms in order to attain what they perceive as stability.

Well, let me put a simple question to you both. Right now, today, two of the top 10 apps in the Apple Store are Chinese, with Deep Seek being the most popular. If you could wave a magic wand and we didn't live in a democracy, or let's just say you were president tomorrow, would you ban those apps from being in the Apple Store?

Well, let me put a simple question to you both. Right now, today, two of the top 10 apps in the Apple Store are Chinese, with Deep Seek being the most popular. If you could wave a magic wand and we didn't live in a democracy, or let's just say you were president tomorrow, would you ban those apps from being in the Apple Store?

Well, let me put a simple question to you both. Right now, today, two of the top 10 apps in the Apple Store are Chinese, with Deep Seek being the most popular. If you could wave a magic wand and we didn't live in a democracy, or let's just say you were president tomorrow, would you ban those apps from being in the Apple Store?

But DeepSeek has admitted, Tyler, that it's going to save user data in China where the government there can access all of it at any time.