Barry Weiss

And also we live in an era in which I saw this unbelievably emblematic photo in which a person in L.A. was trying to put out a fire in his backyard with cartons of oat milk because there was presumably no water in the hose. That's unbelievable. What explains that?

And also we live in an era in which I saw this unbelievably emblematic photo in which a person in L.A. was trying to put out a fire in his backyard with cartons of oat milk because there was presumably no water in the hose. That's unbelievable. What explains that?

So is Doge the solution? I don't think so. Okay, I think it might be. Before we get to Doge, let's talk about a little thing called H1B. Okay, and if you're not a person that lives on the internet, you might not even know what that is, so let me explain. The thing that everyone has been talking about for the last week or two is immigration. particularly the H-1B controversy.

So is Doge the solution? I don't think so. Okay, I think it might be. Before we get to Doge, let's talk about a little thing called H1B. Okay, and if you're not a person that lives on the internet, you might not even know what that is, so let me explain. The thing that everyone has been talking about for the last week or two is immigration. particularly the H-1B controversy.

So is Doge the solution? I don't think so. Okay, I think it might be. Before we get to Doge, let's talk about a little thing called H1B. Okay, and if you're not a person that lives on the internet, you might not even know what that is, so let me explain. The thing that everyone has been talking about for the last week or two is immigration. particularly the H-1B controversy.

And for those who have never heard of what that is, H-1B visas go to highly skilled workers. Think doctors, lawyers, engineers, coders. It's sold as a program of visas, temporary visas, for the best and brightest, and it's been around since about 1990. Now, typically, the immigration debate in this country... centers around low-wage workers and illegal immigration.

And for those who have never heard of what that is, H-1B visas go to highly skilled workers. Think doctors, lawyers, engineers, coders. It's sold as a program of visas, temporary visas, for the best and brightest, and it's been around since about 1990. Now, typically, the immigration debate in this country... centers around low-wage workers and illegal immigration.

And for those who have never heard of what that is, H-1B visas go to highly skilled workers. Think doctors, lawyers, engineers, coders. It's sold as a program of visas, temporary visas, for the best and brightest, and it's been around since about 1990. Now, typically, the immigration debate in this country... centers around low-wage workers and illegal immigration.

But this controversy over H-1Bs has turned out to be one of the early and profound fissures between the two wings of the new Trumpist Republican Party. The sort of, forgive me for being crude, the free market business types, think of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, and the true nationalist populists think people like Steve Bannon.

But this controversy over H-1Bs has turned out to be one of the early and profound fissures between the two wings of the new Trumpist Republican Party. The sort of, forgive me for being crude, the free market business types, think of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, and the true nationalist populists think people like Steve Bannon.

But this controversy over H-1Bs has turned out to be one of the early and profound fissures between the two wings of the new Trumpist Republican Party. The sort of, forgive me for being crude, the free market business types, think of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, and the true nationalist populists think people like Steve Bannon.

The Musk types have come out in ferocious defense of the H-1B visa program. Perhaps not surprising, given that of the 85,000 H-1B visas that were granted each year, about 70% of them work in tech. On the other side, we have a very strange coalition, maybe not so strange to Batya, people like Steve Bannon, but also Bernie Sanders. So, Batya, you were big on this issue.

The Musk types have come out in ferocious defense of the H-1B visa program. Perhaps not surprising, given that of the 85,000 H-1B visas that were granted each year, about 70% of them work in tech. On the other side, we have a very strange coalition, maybe not so strange to Batya, people like Steve Bannon, but also Bernie Sanders. So, Batya, you were big on this issue.

The Musk types have come out in ferocious defense of the H-1B visa program. Perhaps not surprising, given that of the 85,000 H-1B visas that were granted each year, about 70% of them work in tech. On the other side, we have a very strange coalition, maybe not so strange to Batya, people like Steve Bannon, but also Bernie Sanders. So, Batya, you were big on this issue.

I saw you all over TV talking about it. Explain to us where you stand and why you stand there.

I saw you all over TV talking about it. Explain to us where you stand and why you stand there.

I saw you all over TV talking about it. Explain to us where you stand and why you stand there.

Okay, I want to get deeper into the politics. Brianna, before we move on, you're someone who actually has worked deeply in the tech industry, presumably with a lot of people on H-1B visas. Are they indentured servants, as Batya said? What's the dynamic as you've seen it?

Okay, I want to get deeper into the politics. Brianna, before we move on, you're someone who actually has worked deeply in the tech industry, presumably with a lot of people on H-1B visas. Are they indentured servants, as Batya said? What's the dynamic as you've seen it?

Okay, I want to get deeper into the politics. Brianna, before we move on, you're someone who actually has worked deeply in the tech industry, presumably with a lot of people on H-1B visas. Are they indentured servants, as Batya said? What's the dynamic as you've seen it?