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Barry Wirth

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American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He hasn't seen another soul other than his guards and translators. But then slowly after that, He began after the Hammerskog visit, which ended in failure, he began to adjust and he pulled himself together. And as he said, he concluded number one, that he couldn't be brainwashed, which was very significant because during this period,

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He hasn't seen another soul other than his guards and translators. But then slowly after that, He began after the Hammerskog visit, which ended in failure, he began to adjust and he pulled himself together. And as he said, he concluded number one, that he couldn't be brainwashed, which was very significant because during this period,

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

Americans were led to believe that the Chinese had these sophisticated brainwashing techniques and that they could take your soul away. The Manchurian candidate, yes. Precisely. He decided you are who you are. They can't get to the deepest recesses of your soul.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

Americans were led to believe that the Chinese had these sophisticated brainwashing techniques and that they could take your soul away. The Manchurian candidate, yes. Precisely. He decided you are who you are. They can't get to the deepest recesses of your soul.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

Americans were led to believe that the Chinese had these sophisticated brainwashing techniques and that they could take your soul away. The Manchurian candidate, yes. Precisely. He decided you are who you are. They can't get to the deepest recesses of your soul.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

And then slowly, as he began to be able to receive reading material and got acclimated, began to adjust and think ultimately, you know, I'm going to have to rely on my government to get me out of here. He decided to make himself, as he said, the busiest man in Beijing. So in his small cell, He ran 10 miles a day in place or in tight circles. He read voluminously. He cleaned meticulously.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

And then slowly, as he began to be able to receive reading material and got acclimated, began to adjust and think ultimately, you know, I'm going to have to rely on my government to get me out of here. He decided to make himself, as he said, the busiest man in Beijing. So in his small cell, He ran 10 miles a day in place or in tight circles. He read voluminously. He cleaned meticulously.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

And then slowly, as he began to be able to receive reading material and got acclimated, began to adjust and think ultimately, you know, I'm going to have to rely on my government to get me out of here. He decided to make himself, as he said, the busiest man in Beijing. So in his small cell, He ran 10 miles a day in place or in tight circles. He read voluminously. He cleaned meticulously.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He managed to schedule every single day down to one thing after another. And as he said, with that very, very narrow focus, Days and weeks would go by and then suddenly he'd look up and months and years had begun to get by. Was he tortured? No, no. He was very insistent about that. He was interrogated harshly.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He managed to schedule every single day down to one thing after another. And as he said, with that very, very narrow focus, Days and weeks would go by and then suddenly he'd look up and months and years had begun to get by. Was he tortured? No, no. He was very insistent about that. He was interrogated harshly.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He managed to schedule every single day down to one thing after another. And as he said, with that very, very narrow focus, Days and weeks would go by and then suddenly he'd look up and months and years had begun to get by. Was he tortured? No, no. He was very insistent about that. He was interrogated harshly.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

Fecteau at one point was made to stand for 24 hours, but they were not beaten and he didn't feel that they had been tortured at all. The Chinese, of course, knew that they were very valuable prisoners. Sure. Sleep deprivation was part of that though, right? Well, yeah, but not in an extreme way. The interrogations were four hours on, four hours off. So they did have some time in between.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

Fecteau at one point was made to stand for 24 hours, but they were not beaten and he didn't feel that they had been tortured at all. The Chinese, of course, knew that they were very valuable prisoners. Sure. Sleep deprivation was part of that though, right? Well, yeah, but not in an extreme way. The interrogations were four hours on, four hours off. So they did have some time in between.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

Fecteau at one point was made to stand for 24 hours, but they were not beaten and he didn't feel that they had been tortured at all. The Chinese, of course, knew that they were very valuable prisoners. Sure. Sleep deprivation was part of that though, right? Well, yeah, but not in an extreme way. The interrogations were four hours on, four hours off. So they did have some time in between.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He felt that that was a capitulation too far. He did, in fact, in prison, learn Russian because he had read Over a period of decades, he read War and Peace six times and decided he would like to read it in the original. So he did learn Russian, but he felt that to learn the Chinese language would be an acknowledgement that he knew he was going to be there for a very long time.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He felt that that was a capitulation too far. He did, in fact, in prison, learn Russian because he had read Over a period of decades, he read War and Peace six times and decided he would like to read it in the original. So he did learn Russian, but he felt that to learn the Chinese language would be an acknowledgement that he knew he was going to be there for a very long time.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

He felt that that was a capitulation too far. He did, in fact, in prison, learn Russian because he had read Over a period of decades, he read War and Peace six times and decided he would like to read it in the original. So he did learn Russian, but he felt that to learn the Chinese language would be an acknowledgement that he knew he was going to be there for a very long time.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

It's important to remember at every single juncture, he thought the United States was doing everything it could to get him out. He knew that there was a possibility that a swap would be arranged. So he really believed that he would get out in due time. He had no idea that because of this fake cover story, there was no possibility of negotiating.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

It's important to remember at every single juncture, he thought the United States was doing everything it could to get him out. He knew that there was a possibility that a swap would be arranged. So he really believed that he would get out in due time. He had no idea that because of this fake cover story, there was no possibility of negotiating.

American History Hit
A CIA Man in China: 20 Years Imprisoned

It's important to remember at every single juncture, he thought the United States was doing everything it could to get him out. He knew that there was a possibility that a swap would be arranged. So he really believed that he would get out in due time. He had no idea that because of this fake cover story, there was no possibility of negotiating.