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And then the other one I just decided to I had a good colleague that I could pass the baton on.

And there were other things that lots of things interest me.

So my transition was good.

I still keep my.

my toe in as it were and I still even working with you know with Clarence and Stan and the rest of the crew with uh really with everybody um I still feel like I'm sort of not retired totally because you all especially Deandra and Aaron and Maddie and

Matthew and Sheridan really keep me on my toes to, you know, I want to play, you know, be playing an A game here with health chatter.

And so, so they do great research and then I pick up on things and then I could do a little bit more to keep me on my toes.

And that keeps, you know, keeps them sharp.

So, but that decision was more,

It wasn't because, a big thing, it wasn't because of health reasons that I needed to retire.

It's that I chose to do that with the idea that I can now devote myself to doing things that I really want to do.

Oftentimes when we work, we do things that we have to do.

And so life satisfaction changes.

Well, actually, it's not just how I feel about it.

It's what some of the research shows.

Since our companionship and partnership on the show is a little bit of a medical perspective for me.

So retirement does have

negative and positive effects.

I mean, I think that's the thing.

It's not always a balance.