Barry

And what is the way it is that, you know, food deserts and communities, housing issues, environmental issues, those are, those are not going to go away.

And so the, the two part question is for me,

are acute and these micro or chronic traumas affect us differently, number one.

And then number two, can you build up your resilience muscles regardless whether it's acute or these micro traumas to be able to, it's more than, you know, I mean, coping is some of the crazy stuff we do just to get through our day.

Resilience is much more healthy

because it's more integrative into us and people we relate to it, et cetera, et cetera.

But that's, that's sort of my question is just the differentiating between these acute traumas and the micro or chronic traumas that are always there that we're going to experience every day.

And then can we build up our resilience muscles so that we can like the golden gate bridge kind of deal with those strong winds that come in and it's not going to, you know, lock us down too much.

That was that.

So I hope you can help me understand that a little bit better.

Well, it sort of does with the idea, though, for me, what I wonder about is the micro trauma or continuous trauma, the chronic trauma.

you kind of keep getting those neurochemical reactions like all the time, as opposed to acute trauma, you get a, you know, a blast, but then, you know, it, it ultimately sort of like withstand with the loss of Murphy, with the loss of writer over time, it kind of resets a little bit.

Whereas it's that, it's that kind of thing.

Yeah.

Barry last thoughts.

I'm just going to end by Tom.

Thank you so very much.

I, I kind of,

put out there what I wanted to, you know, talk about.

And it was a great discussion.