Barry

But again, it's an acute problem.

trauma.

It's an acute loss.

And that really goes more into grief.

And I did want to just circle back to the thing that Clarence was talking about before.

Because, Tom, I have a two-part question.

I think I know what the answers are.

So this is probably, hopefully, will be a softball question.

But the thing is that, but it also relates to what you were saying.

There are acute traumas that we have.

And then there are, I'll call them

chronic traumas or micro traumas.

And I think that relates what Clarence, what you were talking about before where everybody says, well, this is like the way it is.

And what is the way it is that, you know, food deserts and communities, housing issues, environmental issues, those are, those are not going to go away.

And so the, the two part question is for me,

are acute and these micro or chronic traumas affect us differently, number one.

And then number two, can you build up your resilience muscles regardless whether it's acute or these micro traumas to be able to, it's more than, you know, I mean, coping is some of the crazy stuff we do just to get through our day.

Resilience is much more healthy

because it's more integrative into us and people we relate to it, et cetera, et cetera.

But that's, that's sort of my question is just the differentiating between these acute traumas and the micro or chronic traumas that are always there that we're going to experience every day.