Ben Affleck

Like when they're really puzzling over a shot or really grinding out something, I go, you know, it's not going to look as good on the phone.

Just everyone gets angry.

Slippery slope.

It is, because the...

It's like the bar for walking out of a movie theater is a lot higher than from just changing the channel.

And oftentimes, you know, directors will want to make a movie that is challenging and upsetting.

And I remember Terry Kinney, my friend, great actor, and he told me about the experience of seeing Taxi Driver in New York for the first time in 76 or whenever it came out, and he said,

What I remember is not only the movie, but I remember standing at the back because I had got up, I got up out of my seat and I went, but I couldn't bring myself to leave because I was so invested.

He goes, I was standing at the back by the door watching the movie.

And he goes, and there were two other people standing next to me who were doing the same thing.

Because the movie was disturbing them so much.

Wow.

Which is not a bad thing, right?

So had that been on Netflix or Amazon, if somebody says, oh, I'm disturbed, and they change the channel, that doesn't mean you shouldn't make Taxi Driver.

Well, they also knew where their audience was.

They were in a theater.

But also, like you said, because it's fair.

It's fair.

And in success, the people who made the movie should participate in that.

And also with this one, which was important to us, they delineate above the line and below the line, right?