Ben Anderson

And the manufacturers will want to be involved just because Formula 1 is so gargantuan.

You have to be there.

And the technology element that they've kind of relied on when Formula 1 was much more niche isn't so powerful.

And of course, you know, they're...

One of the more interesting competitive eras of F1 back in the 70s, you only had Ferrari engines and Ford DFVs pretty much.

So the need to have loads of manufacturers and Formula 1 necessarily being better when there's lots of them, as John outlined, I don't...

I don't think that applies universally.

I think it very much depends who you've got in there, what their motivations are, what the parameters are in terms of what they're designing.

And maybe this rule set was just conceived with a little bit too much manufacturer influence.

Obviously as well, when we were just coming out of the COVID era, when Formula 1 was making steps towards sustainability and what we have now financially, but was pretty much on its knees financially.

and with some teams about to go under.

So I can understand why there was maybe a bit more fear that Formula One would really suffer without getting proper new manufacturer buy-in.

But by the time we've got to having that, actually we're in a completely different place and we don't need it anymore.

So maybe if what I say, uh,

Do you think that they will...

to do everything they can as a group of manufacturers to bring the likes of Audi and Honda on board with the plan?

Or do you think they might go, do you know what, as long as Ferrari, Red Bull powertrains, Mercedes...

It's good for you guys who are on the race teams because you've had the proper break, right?

F1 people have been saying, oh, the factories are busier than ever.

So it's all of us hard workers behind the scenes who've had to do extra stuff in the month off while you just sun yourselves or go and watch snooker, right, Ed?