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Ben Cesario

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245 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

We want to have what's called an open venue, which means any company who wants to put on a show, call us, make a deal, you can put on your show.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

Live Nation was very upset about that because they wanted to control the bookings.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

And the person who testified was not some experienced music industry person.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

This was a city official who said they told us that if you don't do it our way, we're going to send concerts around you.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

This venue will fail.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

So that kind of testimony, I think, made a very strong impression on the jury right off the bat.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

It seemed to be going well for the government.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

They came out with some really powerful testimony that I think buttressed the case that they were making.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

Now, this is the plaintiffs making their case.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

We hadn't heard Live Nation's side of the story yet.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

Well, Live Nation argues, of course, that they are not a monopoly.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

They say that they don't threaten venues and that the pricing of all of this, why are concerts expensive, that that's the market at work.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

that people pay a lot of money for big concerts by famous artists because they want to see them and because the artists know that they can charge what the market will bear.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

Behind all of this is also the secondary market of ticketing that for a long time now, the music industry has been able to look at StubHub and all these other secondary market sites and see that somebody who sold their ticket for 200 bucks,

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

Now it's being sold for $1,000.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

So that's part of their general argument, that it's not monopoly.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

It's the market doing its thing.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

But...

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

As all this is happening in the courtroom, there's sort of a secondary thing playing out in private where Live Nation is essentially lobbying the Justice Department to settle this case.

The Daily
Ticketmaster’s Big Loss in Court

And that's something that they have been working on for quite a while.