Ben Currin

And both of us are engineers, but not software engineers.

So he's an electrical engineer by background.

I'm a nuclear engineer by background.

He spent years and years and years, a couple decades in community association management, partnered with a couple folks who had...

built SaaS applications in this space before and kind of wrote the initial code, I came in and grew the team, grew the strategy in the industry.

So kind of a couple of technical, non-technical partners, I guess you could call us.

It's a great question.

I guess there's no... I don't think there is any normal path to running an HOA software company because no one goes to school to...

to kind of work in community association management or HOA management as it is.

But my path, I went to the United States Naval Academy for my undergrad education and ended up as a nuclear engineer and a submarine officer in the Navy.

So I spent time traveling all over the world, having big adventures, kind of doing that.

That was really important to me to serve our country and to do something like that and also to have a big adventure kind of in my 20s, which I am glad and grateful to have done.

But I always had kind of an entrepreneurial itch and knew I wanted to build something and loved technology, loved to tinker.

I like to build little projects and do different things.

What I saw as an opportunity, not HOA, I didn't know anything about the HOA market, but these kind of not sexy vertical software markets that were sneaky big, either had a payments component or a financial services component or had a big ecosystem around it, started looking at things in pest control and otherwise, and just through kind of networking and talking to people working in these industries,

Someone actually introduced Dave Sawyer, who is working, of all things, on an HOA management software platform for his HOA management company to me and said, you guys should get together.

You're talking about all the same things.

I don't know what this HOA market is, but let's get after it.

What's the product?

So we call the industry community association management because it's more than just HOAs.