Ben Dobyns

Perfect, that's great.

Okay, good.

So generally, each campaign is its own beast.

And a show like JourneyQuest, because we knew that we needed a minimum of $325,000 as a production budget,

Once you then put in the cost of fulfillment, the cost of shipping and all the other pieces that ends up auto calculating out on the spreadsheets to a goal of four hundred twenty thousand.

So to answer your question, production budget of three hundred twenty five grand.

We did not aim for profit.

on this Kickstarter because the show that we had to make was so huge.

Other Kickstarters will kind of add that percentage in to make sure that we have operating revenue.

But in this case, because we also knew that JourneyQuest season three would then move on to a platform called Backerkit for pledge management, where people can add more money basically for upsells, for additional products, for additional downloads.

Wait, is this a Kickstarter company, this back thing?

Backerkit is an independent company

that's an incredible team out of, uh, San Francisco.

And I highly recommend, uh, chatting with their CEO.

If you have a chance, uh, he's just on top of it.

Yeah.

So, um, so we were able to turn around, uh, on backer kit and raise another $45,000, uh,

just from add ons and upsells.

Now, part of that also is going to is shipping costs.

But, you know, in terms of journey quest, that's kind of where the immediate profit will come from.