Ben Domenech

And I think that's one of the reasons why he doesn't really use the word escapism or escapist.

He just talks about escape.

In fact, he, when he puts escapist in his text, he puts it in quotes as though he's sort of like, you know, scare quotes, like this isn't really what it's different than escape, but it's so hard to make that distinction.

For folks who've never really read the essay or thought it through or who just looked down on any attempt to escape.

Yeah.

What about recovery?

Oh, recovery.

Seeing the world as it really is, right?

Seeing things, seeing, regaining a clear view.

Not seeing things.

It's about getting out of...

the trite, getting out of the routine and seeing the world that you're in with fresh eyes, with a fresh perspective, renewed.

Seeing things as we're meant to see them, I believe, is how Tolkien puts it.

Which I think is very compelling.

There's a purity to recovery.

Yeah, Tom has just posted in the chat, clean windows.

Ah, yes.

That's what Tolkien says, recovery of a clear view.

It's something I always tell my son to do, clean your glasses regularly.

He's like, but I can see fine, Dad.