Ben Domenech

as written by the sub-creative act of the author, because we can't experience it as a primary world, right?

We can't physically go in a ferry and experience these things ourselves.

So the author, through an act of sub-creation, writes a fantasy

which brings the world of Faerie to us that we experience as a secondary world, the better that author is at the sub-creative act, the more internally consistent that world is, and therefore the more we can stay embedded in it, and therefore effectively experience recovery, escape, and consolation.

Oh, man.

That was good.

What a great question to make.

Thank you so much.

I don't know how long we spent on that, Alan.

A while, 20 minutes plus, I think.

20 well spent.

I mean, it's beautiful.

And thank you for giving us that platform and that really, I mean, it's...

To set that up on the tee for us to swing at.

So much fun.

Really fun to go back to, again, stuff that we were talking about 10 years ago.

In episode one, Alan.

This is wild, isn't it?

And to just approach it again from the perspective of everything we've learned since then.

Yeah, I don't think we could have done that connection piece 10 years ago.