Ben Gilbert

So you've got two LA teams.

Now you've got an AAFC team and a NFL team and the Chicago Rockets.

So you've got the NFL and you've got the upstart AAFC that would only last four years, but would change the game quite a bit.

And by forcing this competition, they forced the NFL to do a bunch of things that really was in the NFL's best interest, but they wouldn't have done absent competition.

And this is the first time where we really learned the lesson.

The football that people will watch is the most entertaining game.

Right.

Watch my team get destroyed by the Browns?

Why would I want to do that?

By the way, those words have never come out of my mouth before, growing up a modern Browns fan.

They actually are the same.

Importantly, the franchise and records stayed with Cleveland.

The Baltimore Ravens are a brand new team that started in the 90s, not a relocated Cleveland team, despite the fact that they took the whole front office and team and ownership.

So to your point, the NFL learns this lesson here of, oh my gosh, we've been sort of fortunate that this didn't happen in our league, but it's really nothing intentional that we did.

There's nothing structural that we did to ensure there was no Cleveland Browns in our league.

It sort of accidentally happened.

And by observing the counterexample of boring football, where there's one dominant team

It kind of has to become a core tenet of our league now to fight these other guys of enough equality between teams that it is always very competitive.

Totally.

And if you have a league that figures out how to make sure that it's always competitive, and when I say always competitive, what that translates into from a business perspective is, let's say every stadium has 40,000 seats and you have eight teams.