Ben Gilbert

It has to be something worthy of the Acquired stage.

Yes.

Oh, it wasn't a business when we started.

It was just like, I mean, we didn't make money until our third year.

Yes.

David never once raised the issue.

I'm depending on this for my livelihood, and it's my only thing, so I should own more or get a greater share.

That never once came up.

That's great.

It never crossed my mind.

It would actually break it if we ever started trying to figure out little carve-outs or pieces of the pie for, well, I did this, therefore I should get... It's true collaboration.

It's funny you bring up Sequoia because it's actually benchmarky in that way.

Well, it's the quote.

We started broadening with the Tesla episode in like 2019, maybe 18.

And why did you broaden?

It was David's idea, and he said, I have this thesis that the audience doesn't listen to us because they want to hear if a tech acquisition worked or not.

They want to hear the story and strategy of the most important technology companies.

There you go.

We were just dumping everything into the same shared document.

There's no surprise.