Ben Gilbert

And the roster of AAFC teams is the Cleveland Browns that we've talked about, the New York Yankees football team, the Brooklyn Dodgers football team.

Which defected from the NFL.

Yes.

The Buffalo Bisons, the Miami Seahawks.

is interesting that has nothing to do with the Seattle Seahawks.

They just reuse the same name, the San Francisco 49ers, the Los Angeles Dons.

So you've got two LA teams.

Now you've got an AAFC team and a NFL team and the Chicago Rockets.

So you've got the NFL and you've got the upstart AAFC that would only last four years, but would change the game quite a bit.

And by forcing this competition, they forced the NFL to do a bunch of things that really was in the NFL's best interest, but they wouldn't have done absent competition.

And this is the first time where we really learned the lesson.

The football that people will watch is the most entertaining game.

Right.

Watch my team get destroyed by the Browns?

Why would I want to do that?

By the way, those words have never come out of my mouth before, growing up a modern Browns fan.

They actually are the same.

Importantly, the franchise and records stayed with Cleveland.

The Baltimore Ravens are a brand new team that started in the 90s, not a relocated Cleveland team, despite the fact that they took the whole front office and team and ownership.

So to your point, the NFL learns this lesson here of, oh my gosh, we've been sort of fortunate that this didn't happen in our league, but it's really nothing intentional that we did.