Ben Gilbert

Is it about him?

Yeah, it's about the ascendancy of his career.

And then two is, I just love reading Morgan Housel, and his new book, The Art of Spending Money, is really fun.

I mean, it's where I get most of my latent ideas of, hey, dummy, money's not going to make you any happier.

Who translated it for you?

This woman, Karina Bao, did a translation for us.

Just for you.

No, no.

You remember a place.

I listened to an episode of Invest Like the Best about a year ago, which was a really, really long interview with Graham Duncan.

Yes.

And then he did a shorter version.

I didn't listen to the shorter version.

I only listened to the like super long one.

But one of my biggest takeaways from that is about having the correct grip.

that you don't wanna have too tight of a grip on your work, but you don't wanna have too loose of a grip.

You need to play with an appropriate grip

for whatever the task is that you're trying to do.

And you'll, if you're gripping too tight, you know, you're going to pull it or you're going to, it's going to feel too mechanical, too unnatural.

And if it's too loose, like you're not minding the shop enough, you know, you're, you get, you're going to get your head back in the game.