Ben Gilbert

Even for players who were on opposite teams, the way that before and after a game, they'll come and hug each other or rekindle a relationship with another player.

At the end of the day, they all work for the owners.

And so it's probably a good thing for them to recognize that.

now, the real reality on the field.

And at least it means they're going to be better at arguing what's fair for them from a business that demands an immense amount and maybe even years off their lives for a lot of people.

So let's not end on that note.

Let's close with what's the bear case and what's the bull case for the NFL going forward?

We've talked about a lot of the bears.

The cooperative armor that has got them here begins to shatter.

Youth not playing, player safety issues.

the failure of international expansion.

But I'm curious to hear your thoughts on a bull case for the NFL.

I completely agree with you.

And it's funny, all the negative stuff we've talked about, the NFL will continue to be a ginormous, successful, and growing business for a long time, is my opinion.

And of course, we haven't even talked about the sports betting, which is now legal in the United States.

I'm glad we did this.

All this to say, can't wait to watch the playoffs.

I am ready for some football.

All right.

10 second carve out on my end.