Ben Gilbert

So let's hop on a call.

And we wouldn't have gotten the response back if.

That worked.

Yes.

Because it kind of worked with Jensen, too.

So originally, when we had the idea in 2021 to do NVIDIA, we thought we were like an interview show then.

We thought the interviews would be better than our core storytelling episodes because we hadn't discovered –

that the Ben and David storytelling is our end of one product.

It is the thing that we uniquely can do that no one else can do.

And we thought getting these big gets would be the key to success, which is funny because usually they underperform our standard format.

And so in 2021, we emailed NVIDIA through the warmest connection we could find and said, can we interview Jensen?

We're planning to come to the company.

Can we interview Jensen?

And they said, they gave us a nice party line back.

He's very busy.

And then in 2022, we did our NVIDIA part one.

We did our standard research process.

And I think we did our part two.

We did part two.

And then we got a note from NVIDIA saying, Jensen has listened and wants to know who your inside sources are because it's the most correct telling of NVIDIA's story ever.