Ben Gilbert

And we were like, oh, this was all just public information.

And if you're good at spidering the internet and just like digesting it and thinking about...

why he would have said something at this point in time to this audience in these various random university talks and stuff, you can kind of piece together the story.

And so that sort of like... But you're still flying by radar a bit.

Yeah, oh, we were totally flying by radar.

Yeah, yeah.

But that landed us, they were like, that started the relationship and eventually... Then they're like, all right, he wants to meet you and then... Do you want to do an interview and follow up on your episodes?

That one may have been like at some particular peak of NVIDIA buzziness, so it was probably our then largest episode.

Well, here's what happens with interviews.

And those listeners don't retain the way that.

In fact, literally today... We are no longer surprised, but... We got an email from a company that we recently covered saying, you said a factually incorrect story in the episode, and we know the book that you got it from because it was factually incorrect in that book.

We told the author that it was factually incorrect, and it went out anyway.

Right.

And now you're repeating the incorrect story.

And we have now an errata section where we publish to our email list.

Sometimes they're ours.

Yeah.

Sometimes we make a financial calculation error or something like that.

Right.

Google was 40, probably, across the series.