Ben Greenfield

They spend a lot of time outdoors, but they also move and they move on a regular basis.

We were joking how I was hiking the last time I was talking to you.

I'm walking on a treadmill now.

When you walk into my office or just about any room of the house,

There's like bars hanging from the doors, those gymnastics rings hanging from a balcony, and there's a treadmill in front of the desk, and there's kettlebells in the corner of a few of the rooms.

And it's hard to like walk through the house and not feel as though you couldn't at any point have a movement snack opportunity.

So I pack the home, which is also where I work, such that a standard formal routine

workout at the beginning or the end of the day is an option, not a necessity, because I've kind of hacked my environment to be able to move all day long.

Oh my goodness.

Well, first of all, I don't want to be mean or throw anybody under the bus.

No, be mean.

I'll give you a few examples.

Let's say the average American family is eating out a lot and eating a lot of processed and packaged food at home.

And sometimes thinking that they are making healthy choices, right?

Like Trader Joe's, Costco, you know, in some cases, Whole Foods, etc.,

Oh my goodness.

Well, first of all, I don't want to be mean or throw anybody under the bus.

Well, back to the blue zones, the reason that I think we see longevity correlated with a relative absence of processed and ultra-processed foods that are largely the type of foods that we eat out of packages and containers is because when that comprises the majority of your diet, you are by definition needing to consume more preservatives.

No, be mean.

I'll give you a few examples.