Ben Kissel

Just got out, huh?

Yeah, I got to say, Carol.

Whatever they did to you in jail, they must have done it right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I like making?

New holes.

And we know that that means he had some form of clearance, right?

So that already being done, the fact that you got some form of top secret clearance allows other levels of top secret clearance to be easier to get.

Well, there's certain things that you're like, but then you find out certain things are you just you get like a certain level of clearance just to sort of be in there.

there's certain things you have to do there's certain obviously it goes all the way up to the top and i think the way it works is just like you start on the very bottom level which is the way he's described he does describe it accurately you hang out janitor yeah well he was working on like apparently he was working on particle accelerators he was doing the stuff that he said he was doing he's working in propulsion and that style of stuff okay but it would be it would be secret yeah

It is subjectively funny.

I would also like to place attention upon the idea of Bob Lazar as prankster.

And that prankster doesn't necessarily mean liar.

It means somebody that likes to have fun at other people's expense.

And Bob Lazar is at the very core of him a prankster.

Like, you know, I view this as a jackass.

He's a guy that likes to fuck with people.

And so this is a it's a it's a part of his personality.

Yeah, he's the ufology's community's Ashton Kutcher.

But when those bags landed at McDonald's, that's when they got the idea for Grimace.