Ben Kissel

But just saying we have some mysterious new craft, that's a way that can be flipped a bunch of different ways.

So you Xeno him.

You Xenu the motherfucker.

You hand them a bunch of fake information and say, now what do you do?

Now, like, okay, so we told you all about it.

It's all aliens.

Yep, this is all aliens.

Definitely not stuff we've made.

Definitely nothing we stole from Russia.

It's all aliens.

Yeah, the analogy he used was if you have a bunch of billiard balls on a bed and then you throw a bowling ball in the center of it, all the billiard balls will go towards the bowling ball.

I'm the bowling ball.

You're the bowling ball.

the idea is that you create like a hole in gravity so it's like falling like you're creating an artificial like scenario where the ufo is falling at the is falling at the speed of gravity but then because gravity it's an entirely different force it also creates a sort of reality bending kind of atmosphere

atmosphere around the object that bends light which means why you can't see it half the time and also why it has that weird wobble it's because you're like looking at a thing that's kind of like we can't literally we can't see it light is not getting through the thing around it

That is how the gravity is essentially fuel.

Yes, exactly.

Yeah.

Just a bunch of fucking flying saucers with American flags.

And then everyone just comes out with fucking AR-15s.