Ben Lamm

Everyone has the other side.

Because you can't do anything in this world where it's just good, right?

And so we thought we'd cross every T. And then people were mad.

We talked to the administration.

People were like, OK, you have five indigenous tribes.

Why didn't you have 10?

It's like, OK.

You can please some of the people some of the time, but it was crazy.

It was really, really great.

But at the end of the day, I think if you're not doing something that's like big and bold and like in getting that reaction, well, then you're probably not doing enough.

Yeah, so there's different approvals for different things, right?

And so we have what's called a CITES and a COAST permit.

So we've worked really closely with Fish and Wildlife.

We work with Department of Interior.

And that allows us to import samples and protect them in biobanks.

We're working on a new model around biobanking that's like tissue preservation because it's forecast that we could lose up to 50% of all biodiversity in the next 25 years.

Wow.

So, you know, while, you know, we need new tools and technologies for conservation, we need the extinction tools and technologies.

We also need a biobank.

Everything is a lot easier to bring something back if we lose it from like living cells and reconstruct it and rebuild as an extinct species for today.