Ben Lamm

And like, no, no, no, we were going to call you.

We're going to share it today.

And, and then like our, our scientific paper wasn't live.

So then people were arguing that dire wolves weren't close.

Their closest living relatives wasn't wolves.

It was jackals.

It's like, no, no, that paper it's old.

We have new data.

And we were like, we were trying to answer questions and like get a website.

Like what,

Our website's still like, like fucking Latin on it.

When we want, like, it's like, they were selling like people were like, you do realize that there's Latin on page 17 of your website.

I was like, okay, great.

We'll go fix it.

It's like, but it was a, it was a crazy, it was a crazy five days.

Yeah, it's like, yeah, I mean, I would have, you know, we want to be, you know, I think that we were pretty thoughtful in terms of like working, you know, with indigenous people groups, conservation groups.

We were everything we did certified by American Humane Society, which the oldest animal rights organization in the world.

You know, we even took it to the federal government and got there and like got there.

And then like what's funny is then like on day three, that's when everyone that was like frustrated, we didn't call them or whatever.

Everyone wants to look at their other version of the story.