Ben Lamm

Yeah.

You predicted mammoths by 2030.

Is that still the timeline?

So we said 2028, by end of 2028, that's 22 month gestation.

That means that we have to be at our

embryos by the end of 2026.

And we're on track for that, which is amazing, right?

The thing that I think Colossal has done a really good job of is looking at and running all of these experiments like they're almost like a software company.

So trying to retrain scientists to work in things like Smartsheets and JIRA is always fun and interesting.

But we try to look at this like a software product, right?

And so how do we actually ship products so that when we set expectations to the world, we can actually deliver, and hopefully in cases like the dire wolf, over-deliver and deliver sooner than we expect?

Well, what's interesting about that is we have to parallel path all these different projects along the way.

Yeah.

So for us, on the path to the mammoth, we didn't just wait till we got all the DNA.

We didn't just wait till we got all the genome sequences.

We started working and sequencing the elephant genome.

We started doing the comparative genomics.

We tried to parallel path everything.

So we have not successfully yet put embryos that are not edited into that of a elephant.

But we're working on all the technologies.