Ben Lamm

And it's a category of science called assisted reproductive technologies, which is also really helpful for conservation.

So we're working on all those tools and technologies so that when we have that embryo, we'll be ready to put it in.

Got it.

Yeah, and that's kind of like all of our kind of 1.0 of these species, right?

Long term, we want to use artificial wombs.

So we actually have numerous artificial womb projects going on at Colossal and with one of our partners at the University of Melbourne in Australia.

And so we're working on non-placental mammals, so things like marsupials, right?

We're working on placental mammals, so we're starting with the mouse, right?

So it's like, how do we grow a mouse fully ex utero?

That's only 23 days gestation versus 22 months.

And when our first elephants will be born, they'll be 300 pounds.

So different challenges, but fundamental biology, it has to be solved for us to even scale from mouse to pig to then eventually species that grow into elephants, right?

And then we even have an artificial egg construct that we're working with, you know, so that we can grow eggs fully.

Wow, without the two animals mating?

No, with the two animals mating and having the eggs so that we get kind of those core PGCs that are edited, but then extracting them and putting them in a, so it's kind of a Gen 2.

The problem with some of the avian work is you kind of have two generations because you have to create these first genetically modified birds that are sterile.

and then they have to mate to produce that first egg.

Got it.

But then from that, you can take those and do everything else in a synthetic egg.

Holy cow.