Ben Lindbergh

Yeah, that's why we have five different podcasts covering the show on the Ringer Podcast Network. We've got a variety of perspectives. But yeah, it's true. It's hard to see this with fresh eyes, even if we do our best. But I think that... There is some heavy handedness.

Yeah, that's why we have five different podcasts covering the show on the Ringer Podcast Network. We've got a variety of perspectives. But yeah, it's true. It's hard to see this with fresh eyes, even if we do our best. But I think that... There is some heavy handedness.

And we talked about this last week with the just screaming to the hilltops that she's immune and then also getting bitten to remind us that she's immune. It's funny because in the game, you do get the scene where she tells Dina that she's immune and Dina doesn't believe her because why would you? She thinks, you know, she's just pranking her.

And we talked about this last week with the just screaming to the hilltops that she's immune and then also getting bitten to remind us that she's immune. It's funny because in the game, you do get the scene where she tells Dina that she's immune and Dina doesn't believe her because why would you? She thinks, you know, she's just pranking her.

And we talked about this last week with the just screaming to the hilltops that she's immune and then also getting bitten to remind us that she's immune. It's funny because in the game, you do get the scene where she tells Dina that she's immune and Dina doesn't believe her because why would you? She thinks, you know, she's just pranking her.

But, yeah, it's sold by Caitlin Deaver's performance, I think, as much as we might quibble with, OK, did we need all of this information? I thought it was interesting that Abby says that Joel canonically killed 18 fireflies, excluding her dad in the hospital because. Yeah. In the game, I think you can kill as few as three.

But, yeah, it's sold by Caitlin Deaver's performance, I think, as much as we might quibble with, OK, did we need all of this information? I thought it was interesting that Abby says that Joel canonically killed 18 fireflies, excluding her dad in the hospital because. Yeah. In the game, I think you can kill as few as three.

But, yeah, it's sold by Caitlin Deaver's performance, I think, as much as we might quibble with, OK, did we need all of this information? I thought it was interesting that Abby says that Joel canonically killed 18 fireflies, excluding her dad in the hospital because. Yeah. In the game, I think you can kill as few as three.

I don't know that many people had that kind of restraint, but I think like the game canon, I think technically is just like what you see in cut scenes because, you know, you can you can take a more stealthy approach or you can be me and take a more guns blazing approach. But that's what I did, too. Yeah. Yeah, Abby would have plenty of reason to kill me.

I don't know that many people had that kind of restraint, but I think like the game canon, I think technically is just like what you see in cut scenes because, you know, you can you can take a more stealthy approach or you can be me and take a more guns blazing approach. But that's what I did, too. Yeah. Yeah, Abby would have plenty of reason to kill me.

I don't know that many people had that kind of restraint, but I think like the game canon, I think technically is just like what you see in cut scenes because, you know, you can you can take a more stealthy approach or you can be me and take a more guns blazing approach. But that's what I did, too. Yeah. Yeah, Abby would have plenty of reason to kill me.

I don't know what my body count was, but probably closer to 18 than three. But I guess show canon is obviously different from game canon, but nice to have the kill count up there, you know, I guess.

I don't know what my body count was, but probably closer to 18 than three. But I guess show canon is obviously different from game canon, but nice to have the kill count up there, you know, I guess.

I don't know what my body count was, but probably closer to 18 than three. But I guess show canon is obviously different from game canon, but nice to have the kill count up there, you know, I guess.

And that does make Joel seem even more monstrous. Did you have to kill quite that many people? But also makes him seem... like more of a threat and more of a monster and more capable that he could even bring down, you know, like 18 versus one, that he could actually pull that off. Just, you know, running out of ammo, grabbing another gun, running out of ammo, grabbing another gun.

And that does make Joel seem even more monstrous. Did you have to kill quite that many people? But also makes him seem... like more of a threat and more of a monster and more capable that he could even bring down, you know, like 18 versus one, that he could actually pull that off. Just, you know, running out of ammo, grabbing another gun, running out of ammo, grabbing another gun.

And that does make Joel seem even more monstrous. Did you have to kill quite that many people? But also makes him seem... like more of a threat and more of a monster and more capable that he could even bring down, you know, like 18 versus one, that he could actually pull that off. Just, you know, running out of ammo, grabbing another gun, running out of ammo, grabbing another gun.

So then Ellie shows up and it largely plays out the same way from there. There is, I think, a little more responsiveness on Joel's part. He's not going to get up, obviously, but you see the fingers twitching. You see...

So then Ellie shows up and it largely plays out the same way from there. There is, I think, a little more responsiveness on Joel's part. He's not going to get up, obviously, but you see the fingers twitching. You see...

So then Ellie shows up and it largely plays out the same way from there. There is, I think, a little more responsiveness on Joel's part. He's not going to get up, obviously, but you see the fingers twitching. You see...