Ben Lindbergh

the game will halt your forward progress, right?

You're skateboarding.

And if you run right into a car, then it will rewind, much like Forza Horizon 6.

Well, not much like, but a little like.

But that's the key.

You just want this story to keep unspooling.

And so even if you're doing essentially a quick time event,

You're just trying to facilitate the storytelling.

And so if you run right into a car, well, suddenly we have to rewind and back up.

And is that really so different from getting a game over and having to restart that sequence?

I don't think so.

Yeah, yeah.

And there's a moment where, you know, Stacey is talking about Dvorak, the composer, and she says, Dvorak?

And I wasn't sure whether that was a mistake that the people making the game made or whether that was a mistake that Stacey might have made, which I think kind of rings true.

And yes, Stacey's musical taste is actually the director of the game Johnny Galvatron's musical taste.

And he constructed this game around his personal mixtape and his favorite songs.

So I get it if you think that this doesn't...

really authentically capture Stacy, the fictional character's lived experience here.

But as Cass says, people who have passions are hot.

This is Johnny Galvatron's passion is making games out of music.