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Ben Lindbergh

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The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And then, you know, finally it ends with, I know when I die, my soul is damned. And that might seem like the one part here that actually is true, but... we know the end of the last of us part two, and maybe that's not completely true too. Maybe there is actually some salvation and restoration here. So it just, it works really well thematically, I think.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And that could go over your head entirely and it wouldn't be distracting, you know, if you don't place Ashley Johnson and the lyrics of the song. But if you do, it just adds another layer to your appreciation of the show. and the game, and the way that the two touch. So kudos.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And that could go over your head entirely and it wouldn't be distracting, you know, if you don't place Ashley Johnson and the lyrics of the song. But if you do, it just adds another layer to your appreciation of the show. and the game, and the way that the two touch. So kudos.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And that could go over your head entirely and it wouldn't be distracting, you know, if you don't place Ashley Johnson and the lyrics of the song. But if you do, it just adds another layer to your appreciation of the show. and the game, and the way that the two touch. So kudos.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Kudos to Druckmann and Mason and everyone else involved in that coda to an extremely difficult scene at the end of an extremely difficult episode.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Kudos to Druckmann and Mason and everyone else involved in that coda to an extremely difficult scene at the end of an extremely difficult episode.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Kudos to Druckmann and Mason and everyone else involved in that coda to an extremely difficult scene at the end of an extremely difficult episode.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

So we touched on this, but ultimately, and you said your final verdict, you're reserving judgment. Jury's still out, which I think is wise. And most of the Internet is not taking that approach. So I commend you on it. But waiting to see how the rest of this season and not just this season, but next season, too. because this is all playing out over multiple seasons.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

So we touched on this, but ultimately, and you said your final verdict, you're reserving judgment. Jury's still out, which I think is wise. And most of the Internet is not taking that approach. So I commend you on it. But waiting to see how the rest of this season and not just this season, but next season, too. because this is all playing out over multiple seasons.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

So we touched on this, but ultimately, and you said your final verdict, you're reserving judgment. Jury's still out, which I think is wise. And most of the Internet is not taking that approach. So I commend you on it. But waiting to see how the rest of this season and not just this season, but next season, too. because this is all playing out over multiple seasons.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And OK, we can't evaluate the vision until we've seen it all. But based on what we've seen so far, does the death work better, worse, the same on the show compared to the game?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And OK, we can't evaluate the vision until we've seen it all. But based on what we've seen so far, does the death work better, worse, the same on the show compared to the game?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And OK, we can't evaluate the vision until we've seen it all. But based on what we've seen so far, does the death work better, worse, the same on the show compared to the game?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Right. So even if you say, OK, maybe this surprise was dampened somewhat, clearly it was still a big twist if you made it all the way.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Right. So even if you say, OK, maybe this surprise was dampened somewhat, clearly it was still a big twist if you made it all the way.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Right. So even if you say, OK, maybe this surprise was dampened somewhat, clearly it was still a big twist if you made it all the way.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But I think what I worry about is just the rest of the game and the way that it unfolds implicates the player in Ellie's violence to an extent in the game, because we're right there with her watching this happen and thinking, screw you, I'm going to kill her for what she did to Joel. Yeah, yeah.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But I think what I worry about is just the rest of the game and the way that it unfolds implicates the player in Ellie's violence to an extent in the game, because we're right there with her watching this happen and thinking, screw you, I'm going to kill her for what she did to Joel. Yeah, yeah.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But I think what I worry about is just the rest of the game and the way that it unfolds implicates the player in Ellie's violence to an extent in the game, because we're right there with her watching this happen and thinking, screw you, I'm going to kill her for what she did to Joel. Yeah, yeah.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Not knowing that Abby killed Joel out of the same desire that Ellie and we as the players have to get revenge on her. And then when the perspective shifts and you see things from Abby's view, then you kind of question your own sense of the situation and your own bloodthirstiness. And that's this moment of reckoning.