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Ben Lindbergh

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The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Their hands are not clean here either. So let's just talk briefly about the attack on Jackson, too, because in the game, Abby stumbles over a few infected under the snow. But here we have a horde. They have multiplied exponentially. Did you like that this happened in the same episode as Joel's death?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Their hands are not clean here either. So let's just talk briefly about the attack on Jackson, too, because in the game, Abby stumbles over a few infected under the snow. But here we have a horde. They have multiplied exponentially. Did you like that this happened in the same episode as Joel's death?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

At first, I thought this is kind of overkill, literally. I mean, that Joel's death scene would have stood on its own You know, just like from a strategic standpoint, why, quote unquote, waste a big battle or burn a big battle in a week when everyone's going to be talking about the show anyway? And we're all going to be talking about Joel's death. Why not just like parcel these out a bit?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

At first, I thought this is kind of overkill, literally. I mean, that Joel's death scene would have stood on its own You know, just like from a strategic standpoint, why, quote unquote, waste a big battle or burn a big battle in a week when everyone's going to be talking about the show anyway? And we're all going to be talking about Joel's death. Why not just like parcel these out a bit?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

At first, I thought this is kind of overkill, literally. I mean, that Joel's death scene would have stood on its own You know, just like from a strategic standpoint, why, quote unquote, waste a big battle or burn a big battle in a week when everyone's going to be talking about the show anyway? And we're all going to be talking about Joel's death. Why not just like parcel these out a bit?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And people have been waiting for the big infected confrontation. It was one of the complaints about the first season. There's not enough infected. It doesn't seem dangerous. enough in this world, at least from the fungal infection. And they thought, OK, you want infected. We're going to give you infected and we're going to give them to you all at once.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And people have been waiting for the big infected confrontation. It was one of the complaints about the first season. There's not enough infected. It doesn't seem dangerous. enough in this world, at least from the fungal infection. And they thought, OK, you want infected. We're going to give you infected and we're going to give them to you all at once.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And people have been waiting for the big infected confrontation. It was one of the complaints about the first season. There's not enough infected. It doesn't seem dangerous. enough in this world, at least from the fungal infection. And they thought, OK, you want infected. We're going to give you infected and we're going to give them to you all at once.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And I thought that that scene was much needed and overdue. But I did initially question, will this also be sort of a distraction from a storytelling standpoint? Will this pull focus from the Joel scene? We are actually kind of intercutting between one or the other. And the Joel scene, ultimately, that's the true showstopper.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And I thought that that scene was much needed and overdue. But I did initially question, will this also be sort of a distraction from a storytelling standpoint? Will this pull focus from the Joel scene? We are actually kind of intercutting between one or the other. And the Joel scene, ultimately, that's the true showstopper.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And I thought that that scene was much needed and overdue. But I did initially question, will this also be sort of a distraction from a storytelling standpoint? Will this pull focus from the Joel scene? We are actually kind of intercutting between one or the other. And the Joel scene, ultimately, that's the true showstopper.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And so I thought, gosh, if we're all focusing on this big battle, shouldn't we just give the Joel's murder its due? Shouldn't that be the big centerpiece and not have to share the spotlight? But then I thought, maybe, no, maybe it actually enhances the surprise of the outcome of that scene.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And so I thought, gosh, if we're all focusing on this big battle, shouldn't we just give the Joel's murder its due? Shouldn't that be the big centerpiece and not have to share the spotlight? But then I thought, maybe, no, maybe it actually enhances the surprise of the outcome of that scene.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And so I thought, gosh, if we're all focusing on this big battle, shouldn't we just give the Joel's murder its due? Shouldn't that be the big centerpiece and not have to share the spotlight? But then I thought, maybe, no, maybe it actually enhances the surprise of the outcome of that scene.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Because if you're watching this, maybe you're thinking that like, well, they wouldn't kill Joel while this big battle is going on. Like he has to ride to the rescue. They're not going to just kill him while the whole city and Tommy and everyone else is at stake.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Because if you're watching this, maybe you're thinking that like, well, they wouldn't kill Joel while this big battle is going on. Like he has to ride to the rescue. They're not going to just kill him while the whole city and Tommy and everyone else is at stake.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Because if you're watching this, maybe you're thinking that like, well, they wouldn't kill Joel while this big battle is going on. Like he has to ride to the rescue. They're not going to just kill him while the whole city and Tommy and everyone else is at stake.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And so maybe that's almost a misdirect where you have your focus on this big battle and you're not thinking they're actually going to kill Joel in this one too. Maybe that actually makes it more of a surprise. Plus what you're saying about just let's, aim for the all time TV highlight here. Let's just do it and be legends.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And so maybe that's almost a misdirect where you have your focus on this big battle and you're not thinking they're actually going to kill Joel in this one too. Maybe that actually makes it more of a surprise. Plus what you're saying about just let's, aim for the all time TV highlight here. Let's just do it and be legends.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And so maybe that's almost a misdirect where you have your focus on this big battle and you're not thinking they're actually going to kill Joel in this one too. Maybe that actually makes it more of a surprise. Plus what you're saying about just let's, aim for the all time TV highlight here. Let's just do it and be legends.