Ben Lindbergh

Yeah, I'm excited to talk about some of these changes. I think there are ways in which the game version is more effective, maybe some ways in which the show version is more effective. They are ultimately quite different, and the differences might be in the eye of the beholder, but... I say overall, this was a TV event, the kind that doesn't come along very often.

And it actually was an episode that made me wish I hadn't played the games because I wanted to be one of the people who was not expecting this because the impact was blunted. Much, much unlike the impact of the golf club on Joel, for me, at least, because we were anticipating it. We didn't know it was coming this week necessarily, but we knew this Sunday, next Sunday, it's coming soon.

And it actually was an episode that made me wish I hadn't played the games because I wanted to be one of the people who was not expecting this because the impact was blunted. Much, much unlike the impact of the golf club on Joel, for me, at least, because we were anticipating it. We didn't know it was coming this week necessarily, but we knew this Sunday, next Sunday, it's coming soon.

And it actually was an episode that made me wish I hadn't played the games because I wanted to be one of the people who was not expecting this because the impact was blunted. Much, much unlike the impact of the golf club on Joel, for me, at least, because we were anticipating it. We didn't know it was coming this week necessarily, but we knew this Sunday, next Sunday, it's coming soon.

And so you're anticipating it and you know that it's coming and you just can't feel the same shock that you felt the first time. And so I sort of envied people who were experiencing this for the first time. But they pulled out all the stops. I mean, this was in some ways bigger than the way that it was portrayed in the game.

And so you're anticipating it and you know that it's coming and you just can't feel the same shock that you felt the first time. And so I sort of envied people who were experiencing this for the first time. But they pulled out all the stops. I mean, this was in some ways bigger than the way that it was portrayed in the game.

And so you're anticipating it and you know that it's coming and you just can't feel the same shock that you felt the first time. And so I sort of envied people who were experiencing this for the first time. But they pulled out all the stops. I mean, this was in some ways bigger than the way that it was portrayed in the game.

And I don't want to abuse the Game of Thrones comparisons, but everyone was saying Red Wedding. I mean, this was the Red Wedding and Hardhome combined. This was the big twist of Joel and Ellie combined with the big battle scene that the show hadn't really given us up to this point. So they held back nothing. And it landed.

And I don't want to abuse the Game of Thrones comparisons, but everyone was saying Red Wedding. I mean, this was the Red Wedding and Hardhome combined. This was the big twist of Joel and Ellie combined with the big battle scene that the show hadn't really given us up to this point. So they held back nothing. And it landed.

And I don't want to abuse the Game of Thrones comparisons, but everyone was saying Red Wedding. I mean, this was the Red Wedding and Hardhome combined. This was the big twist of Joel and Ellie combined with the big battle scene that the show hadn't really given us up to this point. So they held back nothing. And it landed.

This produced the kind of moment that they thought it would, that they were aiming for. So mission accomplished, I think, at least in terms of generating attention and making it as brutal, as satisfying, as absorbing as it should have been, as it deserved to be. So we welcome your emails, as always. Send us your questions, your comments, your complaints about the show, your praise for the show.

This produced the kind of moment that they thought it would, that they were aiming for. So mission accomplished, I think, at least in terms of generating attention and making it as brutal, as satisfying, as absorbing as it should have been, as it deserved to be. So we welcome your emails, as always. Send us your questions, your comments, your complaints about the show, your praise for the show.

This produced the kind of moment that they thought it would, that they were aiming for. So mission accomplished, I think, at least in terms of generating attention and making it as brutal, as satisfying, as absorbing as it should have been, as it deserved to be. So we welcome your emails, as always. Send us your questions, your comments, your complaints about the show, your praise for the show.

at ringerversegaming at gmail.com we'd like to incorporate some reader listener feedback so let us know if you have questions we will address them on a future episode and now we can just get into our breakdown of what was different what was the same we'll be focusing mainly on the Joel murder but also on the big attack on Jackson and other aspects of the episode and then we'll wrap up again by looking forward and trying to preview what could be coming next but

at ringerversegaming at gmail.com we'd like to incorporate some reader listener feedback so let us know if you have questions we will address them on a future episode and now we can just get into our breakdown of what was different what was the same we'll be focusing mainly on the Joel murder but also on the big attack on Jackson and other aspects of the episode and then we'll wrap up again by looking forward and trying to preview what could be coming next but

at ringerversegaming at gmail.com we'd like to incorporate some reader listener feedback so let us know if you have questions we will address them on a future episode and now we can just get into our breakdown of what was different what was the same we'll be focusing mainly on the Joel murder but also on the big attack on Jackson and other aspects of the episode and then we'll wrap up again by looking forward and trying to preview what could be coming next but

In the broad strokes, this was quite similar. So just to run down the same beats that were in the game and the TV show, same aftermath of the dance scene kiss. We talked last week about how that comes much later in the game. You don't actually see that scene until late in the game, whereas it's front loaded in the season here. But chronologically in the universe, it happens at the same time.

In the broad strokes, this was quite similar. So just to run down the same beats that were in the game and the TV show, same aftermath of the dance scene kiss. We talked last week about how that comes much later in the game. You don't actually see that scene until late in the game, whereas it's front loaded in the season here. But chronologically in the universe, it happens at the same time.

In the broad strokes, this was quite similar. So just to run down the same beats that were in the game and the TV show, same aftermath of the dance scene kiss. We talked last week about how that comes much later in the game. You don't actually see that scene until late in the game, whereas it's front loaded in the season here. But chronologically in the universe, it happens at the same time.

And so we see the same sort of fallout from that. There's a big storm. Ellie hunkers down in Eugene's weed den. Owen wants to leave. The other ex-fireflies are getting cold feet, literally and figuratively. They're thinking, how can we persuade Abby not to go through with this? Abby goes out scouting, runs into some buried infected, complete with the chain link fence, close call.