Ben Lindbergh
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And so we see the same sort of fallout from that. There's a big storm. Ellie hunkers down in Eugene's weed den. Owen wants to leave. The other ex-fireflies are getting cold feet, literally and figuratively. They're thinking, how can we persuade Abby not to go through with this? Abby goes out scouting, runs into some buried infected, complete with the chain link fence, close call.
And so we see the same sort of fallout from that. There's a big storm. Ellie hunkers down in Eugene's weed den. Owen wants to leave. The other ex-fireflies are getting cold feet, literally and figuratively. They're thinking, how can we persuade Abby not to go through with this? Abby goes out scouting, runs into some buried infected, complete with the chain link fence, close call.
Again, that's almost shot for shot. Joel rides in. He had left on an early patrol. He saves her. He then gets delivered right into the ex-Firefly's hands. Abby brutally beats him to death with a golf club while Ellie watches and vows revenge. So all that, similar. much like the big hospital scene and the big lie at the end of season one were.
Again, that's almost shot for shot. Joel rides in. He had left on an early patrol. He saves her. He then gets delivered right into the ex-Firefly's hands. Abby brutally beats him to death with a golf club while Ellie watches and vows revenge. So all that, similar. much like the big hospital scene and the big lie at the end of season one were.
Again, that's almost shot for shot. Joel rides in. He had left on an early patrol. He saves her. He then gets delivered right into the ex-Firefly's hands. Abby brutally beats him to death with a golf club while Ellie watches and vows revenge. So all that, similar. much like the big hospital scene and the big lie at the end of season one were.
However, there were some major deviations here, and I think they're really interesting to discuss. First, let's talk about the timing, because we were wondering, would they hold back? And ultimately, they didn't. And I celebrate that. I'm glad that they didn't. We thought, would you be tempted because you have Pedro Pascal and you have this character people care about?
However, there were some major deviations here, and I think they're really interesting to discuss. First, let's talk about the timing, because we were wondering, would they hold back? And ultimately, they didn't. And I celebrate that. I'm glad that they didn't. We thought, would you be tempted because you have Pedro Pascal and you have this character people care about?
However, there were some major deviations here, and I think they're really interesting to discuss. First, let's talk about the timing, because we were wondering, would they hold back? And ultimately, they didn't. And I celebrate that. I'm glad that they didn't. We thought, would you be tempted because you have Pedro Pascal and you have this character people care about?
Are you going to make us wait until later in the season? And they didn't do it.
Are you going to make us wait until later in the season? And they didn't do it.
Are you going to make us wait until later in the season? And they didn't do it.
Yeah. Neil Druckmann said, even in the game, there's like an hour or something before you get to this moment. But we also knew it needed to be early enough because this is the inciting incident for this story. So, yes, we always pick every permutation. They considered every option.
Yeah. Neil Druckmann said, even in the game, there's like an hour or something before you get to this moment. But we also knew it needed to be early enough because this is the inciting incident for this story. So, yes, we always pick every permutation. They considered every option.
Yeah. Neil Druckmann said, even in the game, there's like an hour or something before you get to this moment. But we also knew it needed to be early enough because this is the inciting incident for this story. So, yes, we always pick every permutation. They considered every option.
But the later it got in the season, it just felt like we were kind of dragging our feet instead of getting to the meat of what the story is about. And I think that would have been palpable. If they had held this out for episode three or even later, we might have sensed that spinning of wheels a little bit.
But the later it got in the season, it just felt like we were kind of dragging our feet instead of getting to the meat of what the story is about. And I think that would have been palpable. If they had held this out for episode three or even later, we might have sensed that spinning of wheels a little bit.
But the later it got in the season, it just felt like we were kind of dragging our feet instead of getting to the meat of what the story is about. And I think that would have been palpable. If they had held this out for episode three or even later, we might have sensed that spinning of wheels a little bit.
Whereas here, I think they did it soon enough that they could still surprise people and also just kick the season into high gear. Mazin also said there's a danger of tormenting people. It's not what we want to do. That's exactly what Abby wants to do, but not the creators of the show. If people know it's coming, they will start to feel tormented.
Whereas here, I think they did it soon enough that they could still surprise people and also just kick the season into high gear. Mazin also said there's a danger of tormenting people. It's not what we want to do. That's exactly what Abby wants to do, but not the creators of the show. If people know it's coming, they will start to feel tormented.
Whereas here, I think they did it soon enough that they could still surprise people and also just kick the season into high gear. Mazin also said there's a danger of tormenting people. It's not what we want to do. That's exactly what Abby wants to do, but not the creators of the show. If people know it's coming, they will start to feel tormented.