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Ben Lindbergh

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The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And people who don't know it's coming are going to find out it's coming because people are going to talk about the fact that it hasn't shown up yet. Our instinct was to make sure that when we did it, that it felt natural in the story and was not some meta function of us wanting to upset people. So it's true.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And people who don't know it's coming are going to find out it's coming because people are going to talk about the fact that it hasn't shown up yet. Our instinct was to make sure that when we did it, that it felt natural in the story and was not some meta function of us wanting to upset people. So it's true.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And people who don't know it's coming are going to find out it's coming because people are going to talk about the fact that it hasn't shown up yet. Our instinct was to make sure that when we did it, that it felt natural in the story and was not some meta function of us wanting to upset people. So it's true.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

The longer they drag this out, the fewer people would have been surprised by it because it would have been a big talking point on this show and many others. Why haven't they done it yet? When will they do it? And inevitably, some people would have picked up on that.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

The longer they drag this out, the fewer people would have been surprised by it because it would have been a big talking point on this show and many others. Why haven't they done it yet? When will they do it? And inevitably, some people would have picked up on that.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

The longer they drag this out, the fewer people would have been surprised by it because it would have been a big talking point on this show and many others. Why haven't they done it yet? When will they do it? And inevitably, some people would have picked up on that.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Now, the significant changes that they did make, I guess the big one that we should start with here is the character pairings and the alignments and who's present at what scene. So Ellie rides out with Jesse instead of Dina in the game. Here, she's with Dina. In the show, Joel goes with Dina instead of Tommy. So she's with Dina when the death scene happens.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Now, the significant changes that they did make, I guess the big one that we should start with here is the character pairings and the alignments and who's present at what scene. So Ellie rides out with Jesse instead of Dina in the game. Here, she's with Dina. In the show, Joel goes with Dina instead of Tommy. So she's with Dina when the death scene happens.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Now, the significant changes that they did make, I guess the big one that we should start with here is the character pairings and the alignments and who's present at what scene. So Ellie rides out with Jesse instead of Dina in the game. Here, she's with Dina. In the show, Joel goes with Dina instead of Tommy. So she's with Dina when the death scene happens.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But when the episode starts, Joel goes with Dina because they actually have a relationship, as we discussed last time, whereas they don't in the game. And in the game, Joel and his brother are the ones in the brutal beating. So here we have Jesse involved. We just have different duos involved. So what did you make of the choice to split people up and pair different people together?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But when the episode starts, Joel goes with Dina because they actually have a relationship, as we discussed last time, whereas they don't in the game. And in the game, Joel and his brother are the ones in the brutal beating. So here we have Jesse involved. We just have different duos involved. So what did you make of the choice to split people up and pair different people together?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But when the episode starts, Joel goes with Dina because they actually have a relationship, as we discussed last time, whereas they don't in the game. And in the game, Joel and his brother are the ones in the brutal beating. So here we have Jesse involved. We just have different duos involved. So what did you make of the choice to split people up and pair different people together?

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Yeah, so we still get Eugene's weed den, but now it's a 7-Eleven, not a library basement. And because Ellie and Jesse are together, we don't get the Ellie-Dina-Blizzard sex. This is a big milestone in their relationship. That doesn't happen here.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Yeah, so we still get Eugene's weed den, but now it's a 7-Eleven, not a library basement. And because Ellie and Jesse are together, we don't get the Ellie-Dina-Blizzard sex. This is a big milestone in their relationship. That doesn't happen here.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Yeah, so we still get Eugene's weed den, but now it's a 7-Eleven, not a library basement. And because Ellie and Jesse are together, we don't get the Ellie-Dina-Blizzard sex. This is a big milestone in their relationship. That doesn't happen here.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

So it's funny how the Eugene details are being changed, just like Joel taught Dina about rewiring electronics last week, which is something Eugene did in the game world. We still have vestiges of Eugene, but different things happening in different places at different times. And because of that, we don't get that big progression in the Ellie Dina romance, but

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

So it's funny how the Eugene details are being changed, just like Joel taught Dina about rewiring electronics last week, which is something Eugene did in the game world. We still have vestiges of Eugene, but different things happening in different places at different times. And because of that, we don't get that big progression in the Ellie Dina romance, but

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

So it's funny how the Eugene details are being changed, just like Joel taught Dina about rewiring electronics last week, which is something Eugene did in the game world. We still have vestiges of Eugene, but different things happening in different places at different times. And because of that, we don't get that big progression in the Ellie Dina romance, but

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

We get a different big progression in the sense that Dina is there to witness the murder. I mean, not literally, I guess, because she's knocked out mercifully by that point. But she's the one who's there with Joel, not Tommy. Craig Mason said one of the reasons we made a change from the game to have Joel in that room with Dina as opposed to Tommy. Who's a big, tough guy.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

We get a different big progression in the sense that Dina is there to witness the murder. I mean, not literally, I guess, because she's knocked out mercifully by that point. But she's the one who's there with Joel, not Tommy. Craig Mason said one of the reasons we made a change from the game to have Joel in that room with Dina as opposed to Tommy. Who's a big, tough guy.