Ben Lindbergh

How romantic.

And we knew that we need to talk is never a good sign.

And this gets heavy very quickly because he transitions right from, remember when I proposed and we got married, it wasn't that wonderful, to, you know, the thing that I can't figure out is, were you a monster back then?

Or did you become one later?

What a segue.

Just what a conversational vibe shift that was.

It's real heart to heart.

And, you know, she's indignant because we've seen things from her side or we're starting to now.

And we know that she's suffering, too.

So Coop has been suffering, trying to figure out why his wife is maybe a monster.

She doesn't see herself that way, of course.

And so she's shocked that he says this.

But also maybe on some level, she's ready for it or expecting it or whatever.

maybe even grateful for it because they've both been hiding so much from each other, right?

And they've kind of been presenting this facade to each other and maybe just getting it all out there is something of a relief or just, you know, a stress valve, even though this is an incredibly uncomfortable conversation.

And Barb rationalizes it or explains her behavior to Coop, says this is about Janie.

Coop says, so for our daughter, you would kill millions of people, billions of people, other mothers just like you, other daughters just like our daughter.

And Barb says, wouldn't you?

For Jamie?

Wouldn't you?