Ben Mandelker

Everyone saw.

So now he's he's sobbing.

And, you know.

Part of the problem also with his relationship with V is that it never was like a proper relationship.

It was definitely a Madonna horror complex situation going on where because she had a trauma in her past, he treated her like she was some sort of special porcelain doll that like could not be had to be.

You have to wear special gloves with and like she's so delicate and it like, well, it was just never going to work out because he was never really seeing her as like.

just a full-fledged human he just was treating her like this special thing that if he could treat this special thing well it's like that science uh experiment is that the the project you do and when you're a kid when you have to take care of an egg you know you ever do that yes i failed it i'm sure that's a shock i killed the giga pet too i kill everything like that

yeah and it's like and and he i think he actually also believes he will be mature if he can do this he will now know that he's mature and we see this with every single boy on all these shows is that they they try to have a very serious relationship where um they play house essentially you know what they play house they play house and that's what they do and and they think for a moment like oh because i'm in this relationship um

I am therefore mature and I've grown up.

And it's like, no, because the patterns continue on.

And that's exactly what happened here.

But this just had that extra layer of him being like, Victoria, you're so special, Victoria.

And you're like, shut up, bro.

Like, you don't, you're just, you're just, you're doing this not even because you're really that even attracted to her, I believe.

I think you're doing it because you want to just improve your self-image both to the world and to yourself.

Yeah, I actually would, you know, I, you know, I was into this narrative and I would have totally fallen for it because I was really growing to like Nathan this season, but really all his Islamophobia was so off the charts and crazy.

It's just like, oh man, like, oh, you're just trash, aren't you?

So I can't root.

And also like, I feel like it wasn't addressed.

Like you ghosted her, you ghosted her for five days.