Ben Mandelker

So, uh, yeah.

So he's, he's now a girl and the girl is the sea.

So I'm doing my Nathan thing, which is that when he tells a story, he leans forward onto his knees and then he bops his head left and right.

He's like, yeah, a year ago, I think I self-sabotaged myself and Gail's relationship because everyone I've ever loved was pulled away.

My parents' relationship ended, so my dad pulled away.

My older sister and her fiance's relationship ended, so they pulled away.

Also, I used to love getting Mrs. Butterworth's, but now I haven't been able to find it in stores.

She pulled away from me too.

And then... By the way, I just want to say, as a student of Love Island and various other TV shows, um...

If you're the second one in, it's not even a Love Island thing.

This is actually something we've observed many times than Real Housewives.

If two people have done something shitty together that affects a third person, the second person to have the conversation about it is the villain because you're too late.

So even if they're both equally complicit and equally contrite, if you're conversation number two, you're going to get hit with a shit stick.

Think about Real Housewives of Orange County when, what was it?

It was that Heather and Emily had both said that they don't trust Tamara anymore.

So Emily tells Tamara this first, like, I just want you to know I'm just being honest with you.

I said, I don't trust you.

And then Heather's like, I don't trust you.

But Heather was the one who Tamara got mad at the most because Heather told Tamara second.

So in this case, you have Joe.