Ben Mandelker
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Podcast Appearances
Yeah, it came out of left field.
We were not flirting at all that entire day or the day before that or the whole charter.
But I'm going to have to have the conversation now with Victoria.
I'm going to tell her because I'm a man and I don't hide nothing.
I'm like, well, but you've told every single other person but her at this point.
So I think what she winds up saying is that Richard was her mom's partner.
After her parents split up, Richard was her mom's partner for like 15 years.
And so he basically was, I think he came into the picture when she was two, he basically raised her.
And so it's basically like a father figure for her.
So she just, she starts to cry and everyone sees what's happening.
And Aisha's trying to console her, but she goes down to her room.
And then, you know, Aisha tells Captain Sandy ultimately.
So Captain Sandy goes down there and like sits with her.
And it's like, you're like, oh, like when these things happen on reality TV, it's very gutting because it's very, very real.
And so she's sitting there sobbing.
And the one thing that I thought was amusing in this was that, you know, Kathy's like, she's crying and she's like, yes, I'm here.
And like, they're taking care of me.
And Captain Sandy is here with me.
I thought little bear was, I thought little bear was on camera.
My bad.