Ben Meiselas

One of the things we've been covering as well, the Pope.

Look, you had Vance in Hungary backing Orban.

You had Rubio in Hungary backing Orban.

You had Netanyahu backing Orban.

You had Netanyahu's son as one of the headliners at CPAC in Hungary backing Orban.

You basically had Hungary under Orban paying for and sponsoring CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Committee,

doing kind of international election interference and manipulation events that's my opinion of it of what they were doing in hungary where all the right-wing influencers showed up and all the same type of cpac stuff they do here in the united states they were doing it over there and the people of hungary saw what was happening and they rejected it i was mentioning as well we've been covering

How Pope Leo XIV has not been a new thing.

I mean, he's been standing up to the Trump regime with the cardinals and the bishops as well against Donald Trump's ICE and Border Patrol, Gestapo kidnapping and killing people off the street, throwing people in concentration camps.

Catholic priests in the United States have been on the front lines in immigration court standing up to ICE.

They've been at the ICE detention centers, those concentration camps on the outside, protesting or demanding to be able to access the people who have been kidnapped by the Trump regime so that they could

you know pray together and whether you're religious or not religious or no religion at all you know here on the Midas Touch Network what we always talk about is love and empathy and just being a kind person and a caring person and looking out you know for each other and I think it's a great thing when you have someone in a powerful position like the pope and other influential community leaders at the bishop level and priest level and cardinal level of course

standing up to the trump regime and donald trump hates it that's why donald trump was spending the weekend attacking the pope there was a 60-minute special with the pope's top three cardinals in the united states on 60 minutes and trump obviously saw that he was very sensitive to being criticized and so that's why donald trump posted a photo of himself as jesus because trump was sending a message that he sees himself as jesus christ i mean that's and trump's posted images of himself ai he's posted himself as the pope

Yeah, I mean, there was the story back in January where after the Pope gave a kind of state of the world address, Trump's Defense Department called one of the top officials from the Holy See, from the Vatican for the United States, like basically the equivalent of their ambassador to the United States.

And you had this guy, Elbridge Colby, who's like the number two at the Defense Department, which unlawfully calls itself the Department of War.

According to people in the room, the Defense Department top officials said that, you know, if this pope doesn't want to become another Avignon Papacy, he better align himself with Donald Trump or else.

The Avignon Papacy, 14th century France.

where the Pope was kidnapped and killed by the French, and the papacy, the Holy See, was moved to France and moved away from the Vatican.

And so that statement rightfully was interpreted as a threat on the Pope's life within the Vatican.

But the Pope Leo XIV has not been backing down.