Ben Meiselas

I want to show our audience this.

This clip, though, right here of you on Capitol Hill.

I want to speak to you about your speech, then what you make of what's going on now with the cover up of these files, how that's impacting you as a survivor.

But then I also want to talk about your background.

how you ended up on Epstein's Island, starting as a fashion model for the top modeling agency in the world at that time, elite model agency, when you were 17 years old.

You then were a model for about four years or so before you arrived at that Epstein Island and you observed the trafficking there.

You saw that this was not just Epstein.

You were able to observe

what the ring, the trafficking ring that was taking place there at the time.

And I want people to hear your story because I think it's important that it's told that way, not through the prism of Democrat, Republican, Independent, but from the prism of a survivor of a human sex trafficking ring and that there are these predators still out there right now who are being protected

by other powerful rich men.

And so let me just play this brief clip of you on Capitol Hill to remind people of your incredible speech and then let's talk about it.

Let's play this clip.

Lisa Phillips.

Great to have you on here.

It was a powerful day since that day.

You've seen though the coverup continue.

I want to know what you make of that day.

But since then, it seems that the people covering this up have only dug in their heels further.

And I want to rewind the story, and then we'll catch us up to the present, because I think that so much of the way this is reported out there is through a political lens, and the reality is it should be reported through a survivor lens, and it should be reported through the lens also of exposing what was taking place, that this was a...