Ben Meiselas
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to induce this negotiation, to ceasefire conversation.
And then Trump wanted to change it because Trump realized, I get it, these 10 points, like Iran keeps the Strait of Hormuz, enriches uranium, keeps all of its missiles, long-term security guarantees for Iran, Hezbollah, and all its other proxies, full reparation, U.S.
leaves its bases.
You know, I get it.
You know, Trump's like, we can't really do those things.
But you agreed to them.
You agree to those things.
So Iran showed up thinking that those were going to be the framework.
I don't think they were naive that you were going to change the framework, but they didn't deviate outside of it.
And then Donald Trump and, you know, and afterwards, J.D.
Vance were like, they wouldn't accept the conditions we imposed on them.
That right there is one of the fatal flaws of the negotiations that you wanted to impose said conditions on them versus treat this as a mediation.
And also when Donald Trump makes these posts, like we've sunk their ships and we're gonna blockade you and their leaders are dead and we're gonna kill all of you and whatever, look,
if your objective is war, and you want to speak like a war criminal or a warmonger, and you believe the solution is war, and that's how you're going to talk, then I reject that as the way that human beings should talk,
I will protest it and I will call it out as a human being in terms of a conduct of behavior, but at least your words are logically aligned with your actions of war, right?
We all understand that.
But when you posture to a negotiating framework and you say, we're gonna destroy the hell out of you in a mediation, we're gonna pound you to the ground in a negotiated setting.
Well, sorry, that's not a negotiation then.
So if you wanna make your words congruent with the negotiation, then you have to treat the other side respectfully.
You have to recognize the other side's right to exist.