Ben Meiselas

I'm a big Knick fan.

I like boxing.

I like running.

I played sports in high school.

And I just I don't think personally like growing out to me ever meant like

attacking marginalized groups and like mocking and being racist and mocking transgender people or marginalized communities that to me, to me, you could like, like, if, if we want to be like dudes and bro out and do that, like we, we, I'm not, I'm not trying to

Like act like you shouldn't do that or whatever.

Just don't bully marginalized communities.

Don't be racist assholes.

That's not funny.

When you see stuff like that, call it out.

I don't know the way I was raised.

The bully wasn't the cool person.

When I was president of my high school, I would stand up for people in my school.

I wouldn't want to use my position, even when I was student government president of high school, to denigrate and

bully people.

That wasn't what leadership was.

And it was very basic to me in high school.

And so I think one of the consequences of this Trump and this kind of weird MAGA movement is that.

But one of the projects that I've dedicated my life to, among others, is to try to push back on that.