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Ben (narrator/author of the LessWrong post)

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

That's the end of the list.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

My opinion.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

For my own position, I want any answer to the problem to offer me the tools needed to answer my original question about weird photon rockets, and any a resolution that fails to offer an answer to questions of that type isn't really a resolution at all.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

At the moment, if I had to pick, I would take either option 3 or possibly 2.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

The mirrors in fluid experiments appear to falsify 1, 3, 5, and 7.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Although the proponents of 3 believe that we need to repeat these experiments with a range of mirrors with different reflection phases, but it is unfalsifiable, makes no predictions, and therefore worse than wrong.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

6 is slain by the fiber experiment and fails to engage with the fact that there surely is some distinction between the momentum in the EM field and in the full propagating wave.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

I have a vague sense that having separate momenta for kinetic and uncertainty-related things as in, one, break something important somewhere.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Perhaps it allows some scheme to beat Heisenberg uncertainty on a particle's momentum by bouncing a photon in glass of it somehow.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

An important point against Theory 2 is that, despite being the most obvious resolution, it was proposed most recently, 2017, which strongly implies that the first few times anyone had the idea they thought there was something wrong with it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

For example, despite looking like a modified version of 2, Proposal 3 actually predates it by 13 years, 2004, 2.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

It's also unfortunate that the paper advocating most strongly for proposal 2.1 is, in my opinion, using a model at widely the wrong level of detail.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

For a disagreement on a fundamental issue like this you want simple, cartoon models, frictionless, spherical cows in a perfect vacuum.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

If some contingent detail, the fuzziness of the cows, is changing the answer, then the answer isn't getting to the root of the disagreement.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

So a minimum of fuzz is good.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Mikko Partanen doesn't agree with my philosophy on this and they have a kitchen sink theory overflowing with, possibly extraneous, detail.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Pushing me more towards, three, are two recent, 2023, papers that both have supporting evidence for it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

Final thoughts.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

From the list of options above I have actually left out what appears to be a fairly common position.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
“Momentum of Light in Glass” by Ben

I have left it out because it is poisonous and unhealthy.