Ben Orlando

And the stories that I, that I found.

like one after the other.

Like, wow, this is amazing.

I can't believe this is true.

And it just kept happening.

And so that was the entire season.

And then, so I start the season with Lawrence Kessinick.

So Lawrence Kessinick is this literary editor who pretended, he wasn't at the time, he was just starting out.

He pretended to be a full-fledged editor

to get W.P.

Kinsella to write the novel that turned into Field of Dreams.

So he lied about it because he loved this.

He didn't even read the short story.

He read a two-sentence description of the short story about Shoeless Joe Jackson, and he was like, that's it.

And so he, like, this was in the early 80s, he called Kinsella, and they ended up working together.

And I interviewed Lawrence Kesnick,

And then I asked him to edit my novel.

And so he edited my novel.

And so my novel that's getting published next year is edited by the guy who edited Shoeless Joe.

And it's just like, I wouldn't have gotten that if I hadn't been asking people and putting myself out there.