Ben Orlando

So we're really thinking about this more.

And, uh, our trip to Sedona was really helpful in clarifying some things.

And like, it's just, I mean, like what you were saying, it's, it's calming, but

like certain places, like they're, they're here, you know, and it's like these mountains were just so amazing and so powerful.

And I'm back in Arlington and, you know, it's springtime and it's pretty, but pretty flat, you know, it's not very inspiring.

So part of this

conversation that we're having that comes up for me is like, wow, there are so many amazing places and you know, what really matters is, is us.

We can, we can be anywhere and be happy, but also we can also live other places and we can live somewhere that's beautiful.

And we have that choice.

And I think, I think sometimes I forgot or it felt like it wasn't a choice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's like, it's also the definition of being an adult, right?

It's like part of that, um,

definition is oh like you have to be serious and you can't climb trees anymore you know it's like whatever my wife and i met uh and one thing we instantly bonded over was wanting to live in a tree house and it's like how often are you gonna come across somebody and you're talking about this

And they're not going to be like, oh, you're weird or you're crazy.

It's like, no, I want that too, right?

And it's like, do you have to let go of childlike behavior to be an adult?

You know, it's like, it's so dumb, I think.

Like some of these perceived social rules of what it means to be an adult.